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The Truth About Psychiatrist Dr. Post -- An Expert On Terrorists??
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Karl Loren, Speaker For Life, Philosopher, Observer and Author |
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Here is what the US Government has said about the skills and abilities of a "famous" psychiatrist, Dr. Post. The source is a censored transcript of court proceedings, located HERE. The portion where the US Attorney is praising the abilities of Dr. Post is here, in RED type.
The truth about Dr. Post, advisor to Presidents, is located here.
Dr. Post's personal biography is here.
Transcript of court proceeding:
3 July 2001
Source: Digital file from the Court Reporters Office, Southern District of New
York; (212) 805-0300.
This is the transcript of Day 72 of the trial, July 2, 2001.
See other transcripts: http://cryptome.org/usa-v-ubl-dt.htm
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2 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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4 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
5
v.
S(7) 98 Cr. 1023
6 USAMA BIN LADEN, et al.,
7
Defendants.
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9
New York,
10 N.Y.
July 2, 2001
11
9:00 a.m.
12
13
Before:
14
HON. LEONARD B. SAND,
15
District Judge
16
APPEARANCES
17
MARY JO WHITE
18 United States Attorney for
the
Southern
District of New York
19 BY: PATRICK FITZGERALD
MICHAEL
GARCIA
20 Assistant United States
Attorneys
21
22 FREDRICK H. COHN
DAVID P. BAUGH
23 Attorneys for defendant
Mohamed Rashed Daoud
Al-'Owhali
24
DAVID RUHNKE
25 DAVID STERN
Attorneys for
defendant Khalfan Khamis
11
Mr. Fitzgerald says it couldn't have
12 happened without him, but that's not true.
13 Laborers, low-level people are a dime a dozen.
14 If they didn't find him, they were finding
15 someone else. The only skills he needed
was to
16 speak Swahili and know how to do what he was
17 told.
18
Dr. Post [this is the psychiatrists] came in and I think that Mr.
19 Fitzgerald referred to him as a dog and pony
20 show, as someone who had sold his dignity to
21 help out a terrorist. Now, you should
think
22 for a moment about who Dr. Post is. Dr.
Post
23 worked for the CIA for 21 years. Dr.
Post did
24 profiles of world leaders for presidents.
25 Dr. Post is a psychiatrist. Dr. Post is
a
REPORTERS CENTRAL
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SUMMATION - Mr. Stern
2 professor. Do you think for a
second that he
3 is coming in here for him to destroy his
own
4 reputation? He has spoken to 30
terrorists.
5 He has written on terrorism. He
lectures on
6 terrorism. Do you think he is some
sucker who
7 he is taking advantage of, or do you
think
8 really that Dr. Post just said, I love
this
9 little terrorist, I'm going to help him
any way
10 I can? It's ridiculous.
11
Dr. Post came in here and tried to
12 explain to you his role in this offense, as he
13 understood it, and Mr. Fitzgerald says, well,
14 he didn't go talk to Bin Laden, he didn't talk
15 to Atef, he didn't talk to Zawahiri, he didn't
16 talk to this person, he didn't talk to Jamal
17 Al-Fadl, he didn't talk to Kherchtou, he
didn't
18 say Odeh was the final word on al Qaeda.
19
He did say that Odeh described to him
20 how al Qaeda worked, and it's really the same
21 as what everyone else said. And what
Odeh told
22 him was that there are members of al Qaeda --
23 and it's conceded that he is not a member of
al
24 Qaeda -- and that the members of al Qaeda have
25 a say in what happens. I suppose maybe
they go
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SUMMATION - Mr. Stern
2 to meetings or secret handshakes, I don't
know
3 exactly, but they have a say.
4
Khalfan Mohamed had no say. Mr.
5 Fitzgerald ridiculed the story about the
Fanta.
6 Oh, poor Khalfan. He had to get
somebody a
7 Fanta. But that wasn't really the
point of the
8 story. The point of the story is
that his only
9 job is to do what he is told, so when it
comes
10 time to buy the Suzuki, read the transcript,
11 think back. Someone was there and gave
him the
12 money to do it, and he put his name -- not an
13 Abu name, not a fake name, his name -- on the
14 car.
15
And when it came time to rent a
16 house, you remember someone, I think his name
17 was Mohamed Jaquanda was the broker for a
18 house, a slender elderly man, he said Khalfan
19 was there, someone who didn't speak Swahili
was
20 there, and that person gave Khalfan the money
21 and Khalfan passed it over and Khalfan put his
22 name on there. And Mr. Fitzgerald acts
like,
23 well, what's the big deal? He was
running away
24 anyway. They were all running away, but
they
25 weren't all putting their names on any
REPORTERS CENTRAL
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2 documents.
3
He's the last one told of the
4 destination of the bomb. You know
that al
5 Qaeda has this real knack for making
passports.
6 You remember in El Hage's computer there
were
7 all these different Yemen and Saudi
Arabia,
8 different fake passport kind of things.
He
9 didn't get one of those. He didn't
get one of
10 a dead mujahadeen. He went to his friend
11 Zahran Malwi and said, hey, buddy, how about
12 changing a few things on this document and
13 letting me get a passport? That's how he
got
14 his passport. He paid for it himself.
15
He was left there in the end, and Mr.
16 Fitzgerald said, well, he was left there but
he
17 was supposed to go underground and they gave
18 him three phone numbers. They gave him
three
19 phone numbers. They all went. They
all went
20 to Yemen or Pakistan or Afghanistan before the
21 bomb ever went off. There was no risk
for
22 them, but him, if he got caught, big deal.
23 Maybe they would get another martyr out of it.
24
Mr. Fitzgerald mocks the idea that
25 others of equal or greater culpability will
not
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2 be sentenced to death, and he says, well,
Bin
3 Laden's not caught, Atef isn't caught,
Zawahiri
4 is not caught. We don't know what
will happen
5 to them if they are caught. I
suppose that's
6 true, but we do know about the people who
are
7 caught.
8
We do know Mamdouh Salim is one of
9 the most powerful members of al Qaeda.
We know
10 that Mamdouh Salim is on the Shura Council.
11 You remember the description of al Qaeda.
12 There's Bin Laden, the emir and then the Shura
13 Council, and that's where Abu Hajer al Iraqui
14 has his place and he lectures people. He
is
15 one of the people who eggs on young men.
Go
16 ahead, it's all right to do these bombings,
17 because Ibn Tamiyeh told us when we were
18 fighting the Tartars, if you kill people near
19 them, if they were innocent, God bless them,
20 they will go to heaven, and if they were
21 guilty, they deserve to go to hell anyway.
So,
22 don't worry, if I tell you to go ahead, it's
23 okay.
Source Of the Following Material.
Recently, President Bush described the kamikaze operations on the World Trade Center as "acts of madmen." However, mental health experts, the very ones who have been advising the world's intelligence community and military on the state of mind of terrorists, beg to differ.
Dr. Jerrold M. Post, a psychiatrist who teaches at George Washington University, a political psychology "expert" and a former CIA analyst, says terrorists are not psychopaths "but use psychological strategy for political change."
Earlier this year, Dr. Post testified for Khalfan Khamis Mohamed, the terrorist facing execution over the 1998 bombing of the American Embassy in Tanzania. Post met with Mohamed four times and found him to be a "remarkably unquestioning person" who was remorseful and felt that "there are no circumstances that justify taking innocent victims." Indeed, he attempted to gain sympathy from the jury for the defendant. This is a man who was responsible for the terrorist bombing deaths of 10 innocent people and the injuring of 74 others.
Dr. Post once analyzed Libya's Colonel Muammer Qaddafi whom it was thought intended to assassinate the then president, Ronald Reagan. Based on a single third party report that Qaddafi liked to "put on Max Factor makeup and Gucci high-heeled shoes and cuddle a teddy bear," in the privacy of his tent, Dr. Post claimed that Qaddafi was a "transvestite-type personality…highly unpredictable."
Regarding dictator Saddam Hussein, a man prepared to sacrifice his own population in order to sustain himself in power, Dr. Post reported that he is not "irrational," "impulsive" nor is he suffering from a "psychotic disorder." He "only acts after judicious consideration, and can be extremely patient, indeed uses time as a weapon." And he has a "paranoid outlook."
Dr. Post concluded that Hussein has an "absence of conscience, [an] unconstrained outlook, and a paranoid outlook."
This is a man who was jailed as an accomplice to murder in 1958, and between 1980 and 1988 waged a war on Iran, imprisoning and then executing 8,000 members of the Kurdish resistance. He also used chemical weapons against Kurdish villages. The toll from his chemical carnage was 5,000 with an additional 45,000 injured. The Gulf War then led to thousands more of his people dying.
Following the Gulf War, the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State David Welch commented on Hussein, "Here is a person who, for the sake of his own grasp for power and ambition, has been willing to execute hundreds, thousands of his own citizens."
For Dr. al-Abub, the psychiatrist who tortured and drugged hostages in Beirut, Lebanon, in the 1980s, mental analysts such as Dr. Post conclude that he may have possessed a "genetic predisposition to become both a terrorist and a medical torturer through what they describe as an abnormal amount of genes favoring spite." [emphasis added]
INCOMPETENCE COMES TO OUR DEFENSE-
continued
They "teach" us that Dr. al-Abub may have fit either of two personality categories: an "extrovert," which would make him seek and enjoy the dangerous life of the terrorist, or a "paranoiac" type, suspicious, and aggressive, sensitive to any slight, always prepared to defend himself.
In other words, this poor misunderstood and murdering terrorist is the victim of nature and a few personality problems.
This is the same meaningless psychobabble that has decimated our criminal justice system. Our poor criminals are not dangerous; no, they are just misunderstood and a little upset because they had a rough childhood; this to describe someone who is guilty of savagely murdering innocent people.
But it
is not meaningless in the context of either society or the world. By
decriminalizing the dangerous criminal in our justice system, we now see the
released murderer terrorizing society and committing murder again.
Internationally, our defense and intelligence organizations are advised that
terrorist leaders like Bin Laden and Abub are not madmen, just a little power
hungry, misunderstood or upset because our governments won't confer with them.
We cannot possibly defend ourselves against criminal terrorists if we rely on
the semantic confusion of this sort of psychobabble.
Psychiatry's Inability to Predict Dangerous
In 1979, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) itself was forced to admit in a Brief Amicus Curae to the U.S. Supreme Court that, "Psychiatric expertise in the prediction of 'dangerousness' is not established and clinicians should avoid 'conclusory judgments in this regard.'"
In fact, what is established repeatedly, is that psychiatry and psychology cannot predict dangerousness at all. Take such infamous criminals as the Unabomber, Buford Furrow, John Hinkley, Eric Harris and Kip Kinkel, neither their treating psychiatrists or psychologists recognized their murderous capabilities.
Psychiatry's inabilities to recognize murderers and predict dangerous outcomes are symptoms of its unscientific diagnostic criteria and lack of expertise. Jeffrey Harris, a former Executive Director of the U.S. Attorney General's Task Force on Violent Crime, commenting on the lack of reliability in psychiatry's and psychology's diagnoses of criminals on trial said, "You'd be better off calling on Central Casting to get 'expert psychiatric testimony' in a criminal trial."
In 1992, Judge Jeffrey Boles warned that courts should not be "co-opted by emerging psychiatric theories not grounded in appropriate validation and based on subjective belief or unsupported speculation."
The same holds for our national and international intelligence and defense organizations. It is disconcerting that intelligence communities around the globe put such faith, and maybe the fate of many countries, in the hands of experts who are characteristically incapable and incompetent in their predictions of dangerousness and possible outcome.
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Dr. Jerrold Post is Professor of Psychiatry, Political Psychology and International Affairs and Director of the Political Psychology Program at The George Washington University.
Dr. Post has devoted his entire career to the field of political psychology. He came to George Washington after a 21 year career with the U.S. government where he founded and directed the Center for the Analysis of Personality and Political Behavior, an interdisciplinary behavioral science unit which provided assessments of foreign leadership and decision making for the President and other senior officials to prepare for Summit meetings and other high level negotiations and for use in crisis situations. He played the lead role in developing the “Camp David profiles” of Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat for President Jimmy Carter, and initiated the U.S. government program in understanding the psychology of terrorism and political violence. In recognition of his leadership of the Center, Dr. Post was awarded a Civilian Medal of Merit in 1979.
A founding member of the International Society of Political Psychology, Dr. Post was elected Vice-President in 1994. Dr. Post has been appointed to the International Task Force for the Prevention of Nuclear Terrorism, and the Council of International Affairs of the American Psychiatric Association. He is currently Chair, Task Force for National and International Terrorism and Violence for the APA.
Dr. Post has received support for his research from the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Harry Frank Guggenheim Foundation, and the United States Institute of Peace. Dr. Post is co-founder and co-director of the George Washington University Institute for Crisis and Disaster Management. He has published widely on crisis decision making, leadership, and on the psychology of political violence and terrorism. He is the co-author of a study of the politics of illness in high office, When Illness Strikes the Leader: The Dilemma of the Captive King (Yale University Press, 1993), and Political Paranoia: The Psychopolitics of Hatred (Yale, 1997).
Dr. Post received his B.A. and M.D. from Yale. He received his post-graduate training in psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and the National Institute of Mental Health. He has also received graduate training at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies. Certified in Psychiatry by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology in 1967, Dr. Post is a Life Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association. In 1997, he was elected to the American College of Psychiatrists. In 1997, he served as executive chair of the White House Commission-George Washington University International Conference on Aviation Safety and Security in the 21st Century, and organized and directed for the Defense Intelligence Agency an international conference on “Counterterrorism: Analytic Methodologies.”
After the invasion of Kuwait, Dr. Post developed a political psychology profile of Saddam Hussein. His analysis of Saddam has been featured prominently in the national and international media. He provided his analysis of Saddam's personality and political behavior in testimony at the hearings on the Gulf crisis before the House Armed Services Committee and the House Foreign Affairs Committee. During the Kosovo crisis, he was frequently interviewed concerning his profile of Slobodan Milosevic. |
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