It Brought Tears To My Eyes -- Thank You!

 

Karl Loren


[Note:  I, Karl, had sent Sandra two articles, one was Do you have a right to die? and the other was Pelicans.  Click to read them.]

-----Original Message-----
From: sandra

Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:28 AM
To: karl@karlloren.com
Subject: RE: Thinking Pelican/response/your mom-inlaw
 

Dear Karl,

Thanks for sharing the story about eternal life...this was a story about life, wasn't it? if people understood that the body might fall away but our spirit continues to live then things might run smoother. Many have been failed because they don't want to realize we are spiritual beings inside of our body; as someone said: we are a spiritual being having an "earth experience"...

This story had me in tears because in my situation my mother won't even talk about death as far as it's spiritual meaning for her. All she ever says is I don't want a lot of people at a funeral...and I want to make sure you girls (2 of us) each have a equal share in things. It hurts me that she equates death with "materialism" and what she is leaving behind and it's funny because "life" for her is more about "acquisition of the material things" also... It's a long story: I don't have the time to go there right now...

One thing I know is and your story highlights this: we must come to grip with the understanding about life and death; what it means "for us" and how it's understood by other people...

I've worked with many people in my past in nursing homes as part of one of my many duties when I "was" a social worker (years ago)...sometimes these people were very stubborn and emotionally and physically abusive toward their children (not all but some) and yet in some way they wanted their children to come around them or care for them. Some of them, not all of them, wanted to "become a burden" so they could make their children "pay" for not being the children they wanted them to be...

I've seen a lot of cases where people ate or drunk themselves to "death" of the body, yet what angry others would not pay the consequences by caring for them...

Both my parents right now are still in their bodies: but you've certainly given me something to think about and also helped me to release some of my feelings and tears. It's cathartic; I needed to hear this at this moment.

Thank You for taking the time to write that story--I will pass it on to a friend. I will also take sometime to reflect on it deeper because I think it's at the heart of my frustration, which causes me to abuse my body. My relationship with my parents has been a source of confusion for me and I needed to see this. (tears flowing)  ..  ok I'm better:

I'll let you know when I start taking the life glow...I'm now taking colloidal minerals: should I continue to take it once the
Life Glows come? and should I continue with the MSM even though MSM is in the lifeglow?

Sandra


Dear Sandra,
 
Well!  Thank you very much!
 
Your understanding is deep.
 
The untold part of that story -- can you accept this --  is that my wife is very spiritual and guided my mother, and her mother to new bodies -- very knowingly.  We know exactly where and who they are. They, of course, have no memory (yet) of their past life.
 
I performed the memorial services for both, in churches they had attended, with the approval of the minister, and in both cases my wife and I had complete confidence that they were there.
 
Fear not!  Sandra, whether your mother "believes" or not, in any spiritual existence, she will have it at the time of death.  I can assure you that she will retain, for some while, full ability to perceive -- see and hear, but you will undoubtedly NOT see or hear her, even though you can.  Even if you cannot "see" her, you can still talk, in a normal voice, to her.  She will hear you.  Whether you can "hear" her will be up to you. She will feel tremendously "free" from the pains of the body. She won't stick around long, but will go her way.  You might advise her to NOT go down any tunnel toward the light -- that is a trap.

When she gets into another body she probably won't recall any of this, and may even be just as materialistic as she has been. That can change, but death does not necessarily change it.

Life?

Well, the spirit does occupy the body, and as long as the spirit is there, the body is alive. Without the spirit, the body becomes meat -- then rotten meat.

Your experience with nursing homes should help you understand this well.  They are sad places -- spirits unwilling to leave, bodies experiencing pain!

You can continue with the colloidal minerals and the MSM when you take Life Glow Plus.  There are no colloidal minerals in LGP, and only a very small amount of MSM in the LGP.

I see another message from you, but will answer this, then read that one.

May I have your permission to publish this exchange -- probably you would prefer without your last name or address?

Cordially,

Karl Loren


Dear Karl,

Your stories made me look deeper at the aim of health goals: is it to keep the body on this earth as long as the spirit will live? I know there are factors beyond our control which might determine when the body leaves us...(accidents etc) but for the most part is your goal to help people prolong the life span of the body and keep it at  maximum functioning so it can live as long as possible? and bar no unfortunate falls etc how long do you think the "body" can live in a "perfect state"? really interested in your answer.. I ask this because:

I'v  had relatives use this argument: "I'm going to die anyway so why not enjoy my drinks, cigarettes etc?"... these same relatives became a burden to their children... you've really got me thinking now...thanks so much...

Sandra


Dear Sandra,

Your insight continues! Well done!

My goal, with my web sites, and writings, is to help the spirit enjoy the time he/she spends in the body -- to allow the body to be fully functioning for as long as it is functional.

I'm enclosing another philosophical article -- "What is Natural Death," that answers that question, I think.

This is not my total answer, but it will be a good start for you.

There is another part of the answer in an article called "What is Wellness" that you can find by clicking.

Those that think they will enjoy the drink and cigarette are really causing pain for the body WHILE they are still here. So, poor health, and enjoying junk are both bad deals.

I'm delighted that you are thinking.

I'll send along another article about "The Teacher."

Cordially,

Karl


Dear Karl,

Yes you have my permission to publish--but keep my email address and last name confidential: ok? thanks for all your encouragement...I can't wait to lgp gets here...

Sandra


 

 

 


Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:14 PM
To: Karl@Karlloren.com

Read the Wednesday letter...comments:

what I hear you saying is:

The medical institutions don't want to get at the cause of our medical problems....They are not interested in understanding how cells work...

They don't want to invest in research on how arterial cells work...in sum: they don't want to change ....

Let me tell you a little story about my MRI for my brain: I have what is called an Acoustic Neuroma (benign tumor in the brain)...the tumor is said by some doctors to sit on the auditory nerve (which is why I have bad hearing in that ear)...but doctors at Stanford looked at my MRI scans and commented how does ANYONE know EXACTLY where that tumor is located: they said it could be on the facial nerve and not the acoustic nerve:

Where it lies is important, because when I went to Stanford I had been having problems with "hemifacial spasms" on
the same side of the face as the tumor. For 2 years I had "facial twisting and eye closures" intermittently during the day. It looked like I had a stroke and then the twisting goes away..involuntary movements...

to make a long story short: Stanford said the MRI could not get that close to determine where the tumor was , but I trusted my intuition and felt it must be sitting on the facial nerve or bumping into it...so they did the radiation (Stanford developed a new radiation tool just for these delicate areas of the body) and in the last 6 months : NO MORE FACIAL TWISTING...I'm scheduled for MRI's soon to see how much if any the tumor shrunk...but this is in line with your newsletter discussion that
the MRI's don't necessarily SEE everything...I asked the doctor why don't they magnify the image to determine where
the tumor sits: they said it would be to COSTLY...go figure...

Anyway I think your theory makes a lot of sense to me:

the arterial cells are the problem and the MRI focus is all wrong...why not focus on the "cells' in the arterial wall and determine if it's the cells which are protruding....

The implications of all of this is fascinating and the product you have is even more fascinating: for example MEMORY IMPROVEMENT because of chelation: wonder if it is the brain cells and the nerve cells in the brain which are being improved when the chelation gets rid of the free radicals...

Keep up the research: YOU are on to something BIG

Sandra
 


Dear Sandra,

Thanks very much for kind words.

The reason the medical establishment does what they do is more complicated than you suggest.  I might write an article on it, but it would be too theoretical for most people.  It has to do with the fact that ALL people are basically good, but there are various factors of living that make some people EVIL.  The evil person INTENDS to harm, it is not a mistake.  All of this can be undone, but that's another story.

You suggested the MRI be made to focus on the cell walls?  If you are familiar with the photography term, "depth of field," I would say that the MRI "depth of field" is currently quite adequate so that the walls of the cells would be quite clear IF they could be seen at all.  In other words, there is no need to "focus" more precisely when the depth of field is as "deep" as it is for an MRI.
 

The MRI could not "see" the wall of the cell even if the MRI image were greatly magnified -- the cell wall, remember, is less than 5% of the width of the spectrum of visible light.

Increased blood flow would not necessarily improve memory because "memory" is not a function of brain -- this is more metaphysical than you might be ready for, but I have great certainty on these matters.

Karl

 


 


 

 


 

 

 

 



 


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